Also? A military alliance with the Iroquois? Those chumps haven't even discovered gunpowder yet. Mowing them down was satisfying, but stupid.

The thing is, if you were to kindly leave me alone, I would be happy to remain isolationist and work towards furthering science.

But, no, you gotta be a dick. You're like that neighbor who's always throwing loud parties and gets butthurt when I call the cops.

And, yeah, Oda Nobunaga is a dick, too. But Oda Nobunaga isn't grinding along my borders like a horny teenager.

Also ALSO - I wouldn't even be that pissed at you if you hadn't taken Stuttgart and Frankfurt from me in 1350. YOU might change your moods every decade, but I don't.

So now, I have Rome. I have the Western half of your former Empire. And I'm probably gonna take Constantinople from you too, you Byzantine asshole.

You know what they called Germans before they were German, Augustus? GOTHS, MOTHERFUCKER!

I recently got back into Civ 5 and i'm trying to get a diplomatic victory aka the hardest kind of victory EVER

I'm glad TWIGBy posted because I hadn't seen the tag, and I figured Bustie was suffering from the effects of some kind of cerebral hematoma. (Perhaps "suffering" isn't the right word, since he seemed to be enjoying himself in no small measure.)

@TWIGBy: I may end up doing that by default. I never liked the conquest victory. Science is my favorite, but given how many resources I've had to expend on the military in the 20th Century, it probably won't work.

My best bets are to either complete the Utopia project OR destroy Rome and frighten Japan and the Iroquois into submission. Everyone else loves me.

OTOH, it may just be a score victory. We'll see tonight.

WHEN CONSTANTINOPLE BURNS!